we’ve got the White House. We’ll be able to finish all the things we
wanted to do for the last 20 years that Reagan started.” Instead we
ended up doing what? No Child Left Behind and Medicare Part D.
And here we are, just ten years later, with a second chance. It’s both
exhilarating and frightening, because if we get it wrong, we may
spend the rest of my life in the wilderness as a party out of power.
That’s why I’m here, Rush. I have to do everything I can to help
make sure that doesn’t happen. I couldn’t live with myself if I stayed
home and watched us blow this opportunity. So if I can help get
those things done and help the President do those things, that’s why
you work 16 hours a day, why you don’t see your family for weeks at
a time, because you believe in it.
RUSH: I want to read something to you that The New York Times
just reported about you.
RUSH: I know when people do this to me I get a little frustrated,
but stick with me on this. It says, “Mick Mulvaney, the White
House Budget Director, may be one of the most maligned men in
Washington because he is the bearer of budget cuts. He has been
accused of everything from ethnic cleansing to wanting to kill a
million people. He gets ‘fan mail’ with fake business cards tucked
in that give his job title as a ‘starver of hungry children and elderly.’
To Mr. Mulvaney, this is evidence of a job well done.”
You go on to say that this kind of opposition exists because they
don’t have anything substantive to say, so all they can do is malign
you personally. I agree. This is another frustrating thing, Mr.
Director, they can’t beat us in the arena of ideas.
MULVANEY: I remember that interview. I said, “That means we’re
winning.” And the guy laughed. He thought I meant because they
were right. I said, “No, no. When they’re attacking us like that,
when they’re using hyperbole like that, that means they cannot engage in the substance.” They’re afraid to take on conservatives who
can defend themselves. They’re afraid to take on conservatives who
do have those counterpunches, who do have the answers, who do
have the ability to deliver the conservative message. They’re afraid
because they know that if we do lay our ideas next to their ideas,
people will choose our ideas. For that reason, the left oftentimes
chooses not to engage in that battle of ideas and simply accuses us.
That ethnic cleansing line, by the way, is real. Somebody on the
internet accused my budget of leading to ethnic cleansing. We welcome that type of attack because it exposes the weakness of the left.
RUSH: Is there unity in the White House on the budget? We keep
hearing that there are different factions advising the President, that
he’s got a cabinet of what’s the term, “team of rivals,” who are disagreeing and fighting it out and he likes this kind of thing. Is there
unity behind a budget? Do you have obstacles we don’t know about?
MULVANEY: I’ll answer it this way; I think there is unity on the
grand purpose, and the grand purpose is to get to sustained 3
percent economic growth in this country again.
RUSH: Could you believe, by the way, the press reaction that that was
somehow obscene? We’ve had 4 or 5 percent economic growth!
Obama’s budgets promised 6 percent every year and he never
exceeded 1½ percent. It’s so bad that we’ve been told the new normal
is a paltry 3 percent — and even if you suggest 3 percent, you’re committing a sin, you’re raising expectations beyond what’s possible.
MULVANEY: They said it was historically high and outrageously
optimistic. But 3 percent is below average if you look over the
history of the country. However, that’s where our unity is, because
we know that we have to get that, Rush. That’s where I will be a
little pessimistic; if we don’t get that, we’re in trouble.
RUSH: You need 3 percent for entrepreneurism to have a chance,
MULVANEY: You have to have that dynamism. If you’re 30 years
old, you’ve never had a job as an adult in a healthy American economy. All you know is recession and the slow Obama recovery. When
I was a kid, a young man in the 90s during a healthy American
economy, I quit my job to start another business because I knew I
could. If I had gotten fired, I knew I could go find another job.
That’s the dynamism and the optimism that comes from a healthy
economy that we haven’t had for a long time. If we don’t get it back,
you’ll end up with these people turning 40 and never having experienced it, and not believing we could ever get 3 percent again.
RUSH: That’s a dangerous thing because conditioning is what it is,
and people have grown up not only with those facts, but accompanying the facts, they have been told by the Obama Administration
and media that this is the new norm. American exceptionalism and
America as a superpower? Those days are over. We’ve got to come
down to the level of the other nations of the world. The new normal
is this constant recession, less than 2 percent economic growth. If
that’s what you’re told is the new normal, then that’s all you know.
Man, how do you overcome that? How do we convert Millennials
into positive thinkers?
“They like government, and we like small government — but we should all hate bad government.”
— MICK MULVANEY