GOHMERT: It frustrates me. It is insane. But I do have to say there
were an awful lot of us on Inauguration Day who were just basically
giddy. Heck, I was so happy I shook Bill Clinton’s hand and I shook
John Boehner’s hand. I was one happy camper [laughs] because there
was a new sheriff in town. That was a great day. In fact, my dad, who’s
91, emailed me: “Son, everybody in Mt. Pleasant” — where I grew up
— “saw you at the Inaugural. You were in a prominent position. But
you’ve got to get rid of that tan raincoat. Just get a dark navy one and
send me the bill. I’ll reimburse you.”
But I haven’t told dad yet, it was my brother’s raincoat. I lost him
six years ago. I was proud to be wearing that raincoat. But I’m tell-
ing you, that was a great day. Just a superb day. I still carry some of
that feeling. But Rush, there are such parallels to the story about the
children of Israel, God bringing them out of Egypt. And every time
they turned on Moses.
RUSH: Yes, it’s human nature.
GOHMERT: “And you brought us out here to die.” Sometimes that’s
the way it feels in Congress. We won the election, “Oh, so you brought
us out here. We won the election so we’ll get killed.” We’re going to
repeal Obamacare, “Oh, we can’t repeal Obamacare!” Yes, we can.
America’s going to love it.
The Democrats were not afraid of losing a majority to get
Obamacare done, because they knew what planting that socialist
flag meant. We need to be just as committed to knocking that
socialist idea down and getting us back to freedom. So I’m hopeful,
Rush. It’s why I’m still in Congress.
RUSH: In closing, let me stipulate something. In some of my passionate moments here in this interview I have not meant to include
you in those whose actions and motives I’ve questioned. The truth
is, we could use 434 more people like you.
GOHMERT: You’re so kind. Some Republican establishment people
would have a heart attack if there was even one more of me. But I
guess it’s the optimist part of me, I never thought for a moment you
were including me. [Laughs]
RUSH: I just wanted to make sure the readers of the interview understand. You are highly respected, and a lot of people have a lot of
faith that you will never give up in this quest. It’s why you wanted
to be elected to the House in the first place. And you’re pushing
against the tide every day, especially when the Democrats have been
running the place.
GOHMERT: I’ve got to tell you, Rush, a few of my contributors
have said, “You always say ‘no.’ Why can’t you at least say ‘yes’ on
this one?” Others write letters to the editors, “Isn’t it time you
stepped down, or didn’t run again?” I’m a fan of term limits. But
we’ve got some work to do. We have got to make sure that people
across America understand: This is our last chance, and if we don’t
keep our promises in the next year and a half, I don’t see it happening. I just think God blessed us with another chance. That’s why I
was so giddy on Inauguration Day, and it’s why we cannot stop,
even if it means losing a seat. We have got to win.
RUSH: You’ve stumbled into something here, because
you’re exactly right. To this day, when I talk to anybody who’s a Washington resident or member of “the
establishment,” and tell them that the vast majority of
people who voted for Trump did so because they really
believe the fate of the country as founded is at stake,
they laugh. Their lives are fine. Their kids’ educational
circumstances are fine. They think people who believe
the country is in crisis are lunatics.
GOHMERT: Yes. Yet that’s happened every time a great
RUSH: They don’t understand what you just said, that
we’ve got a year and a half or we lose. Sadly, most people in Washington don’t believe that at all.
GOHMERT: Democrats I’ve had discussions with think
socialism is the way to go. Even though, as you point
out, it has never worked. But when I’d get into discussions like that, the good-natured ones who are honest
and easy to talk to [laughs] would say, “Well, Louie,
progressivism is the right way. But if it’s not right, we’ll
just fix it later.” They don’t understand what Reagan
understood, that when a generation loses freedom, it doesn’t come
back in that generation.
So we have got work to do. Which is why I can never thank you
enough for being the great salesman for freedom, for a democratic republic, for free thinking. Last month was my 25th anniversary of listening to you. And by the way, your pushing to eliminate baseline
budgeting, the automatic increase every year, inspired me to file that
bill when I got into Congress. We actually got it passed two Congresses
ago, and we passed it twice in the House.
Now, with two majorities and the Presidency, we’ve got a chance
to actually pass it into law. Yet now that it can become law, there
seems to be pushback against passing it. But that’s the way you start
toward balancing a budget — just stop the automatic increases. So
we’re going to keep pushing that with this Administration. I think
if we can get the President behind it, with his refusal to fail, we just
might get that into law.
RUSH: Good luck. Thank you for your kind words, and I say them
right back at you. Any way we can help, let us know.
“We have got to make sure that people across America
understand: This is our last chance.” — REP. LOUIE GOHMERT