RUSH: Good afternoon, Dr. Sowell. It’s great to have you here again.
SOWELL: It’s great to be in touch again.
RUSH: It’s a delight that you made time for us here, and I can’t tell
you how appreciative I am. How are you doing, by the way?
SOWELL: Not bad for someone my age. Before I forget, I must tell
you that the iPad you gave me on my 80th birthday has changed my
life. I have since bought at least half a dozen iPads for other people
around the country. I had no idea what iPad was, if that gives you
RUSH: Well, how old are you?
RUSH: That’s just incredible. It doesn’t seem like you’ve cut back on
your work output.
SOWELL: Not really. I don’t accomplish as much per hour, but the
readers can’t tell that.
RUSH: I’m getting older too, I’m 63. When I met you, I was in my
40s. We had that dinner in San Francisco at the Carnelian Room,
with Professor [Thomas] Hazlett.
SOWELL: Oh, yes.
RUSH: You’re now 84. You have been chronicling, over the course of
your life, the problems, as you’ve seen them, be they in the classroom
with education, be they with the public’s level of understanding of basic
economics. You’ve written books. You’ve commented on the political
scene, the cultural scene. I assume that you agree with me that things
continue to deteriorate. We have all chronicled the problems. And your
books have just been astounding in that regard. You’ve got a very
provocative column at National Review I’ll ask you about just in a
second. But in chronicling all the problems, making people aware of
them, at what point do you think solutions emerge, and are implemented? When does this deterioration stop? Or is it permanent?
SOWELL: That exact question is also the question, Is there a point of
no return? And that’s what I really fear. Had the Democrats maintained control of both houses of Congress, maintained control of the
Senate, and Obama had been able to appoint federal judges up and
down the line for the next couple of years, perhaps even some
Supreme Court justices, I don’t know how we could recover from
that. Because that would mean, in effect, that the deterioration of the
rule of law would continue on, long after he was gone. Far-fetched as
it may seem, if Iran were to launch a couple of nuclear bombs into the
United States, I think he would surrender. Don’t forget, Japan
surrendered after only two nuclear bombs, and Japan was a lot
tougher country in 1945 than we are today.
RUSH: That is something I hadn’t even considered, that we would
surrender. What would that mean? Does that mean we go Sharia law?
SOWELL: Well, of course it would mean that. Good heavens, it
would mean that not only would women have to learn Arabic, they
have to learn subservience. It really would be the most catastrophic
thing since at least the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, and I
don’t see how we could recover at all.
RUSH: You talk about Obama and the federal judges, and what he’s
doing with the Constitution, basically behaving as though it’s not there
when he doesn’t want it to be there. It is an obstacle to him, and he
made no bones about that, if people wanted to look it up. Even as far
back as 2001, he made it clear that the Constitution to him was “a
charter of negative liberties,” it was a problem because it limited
government. So now, this has all happened right out in the open. The
American people have seen every phase of it. And I’ve been puzzled
as to how little reaction to it there has been. Yes, we voted. Yes,
Dr. Thomas Sowell
My conversation with QA &
What a deeply provocative discussion with a true American
treasure, one of the greatest minds in the nation, whose new
fifth edition of Basic Economics is an absolute must for
every conservative library: